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she's part of the progressive caucus which produced his own plan this week to trim the deficit without cuts to our safety net. congresswoman, let me go to you first. the president made it clear he'll fight for what he believes is right. will republicans fold yet again? >> well, i certainly hope they will. apparently, john boehner said we're done with taxes. the president was very clear that when meeting the economic and fiscal challenges ahead, that he wants to keep in perspective whether the cop or the receptionist was able to make it. and he did contrast it with what the republicans want. and they want to cut medicare and social security. and so he said fine, let's argue this out in the public. and he clearly felt confident that he and we would win if that bat 8 takes place. >> now, the reason i'm asking, congresswoman, is "politico" is reporting that the economy is crumbling. let me quote. >> if that is true and the democratic caucus stands together and the president stands firm, they will have backed down yet again. >> exactly. you know, reverend al, that this sequester was never i
she's part of the progressive caucus which produced his own plan this week to trim the deficit without cuts to our safety net. congresswoman, let me go to you first. the president made it clear he'll fight for what he believes is right. will republicans fold yet again? >> well, i certainly hope they will. apparently, john boehner said we're done with taxes. the president was very clear that when meeting the economic and fiscal challenges ahead, that he wants to keep in perspective whether...
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as the president talks up, how to reduce the deficit and avoid spending cuts. we're learning the budget deficit will top $845 billion this fiscal year even with massive tax hikes and assuming the spending cuts do kick in. congressman tom price pushing the president to balance the budget and says this new report is proof we can't do that by hiking taxes. what about that? we're still going to be deep into the red. >> good to be with you. the president has put forward for different budgets, none of which have ever come to balance. the house republicans have acted responsibly, our budget is yet to balance, so what we will do is put together a budget that balances in a ten-year time. all it does tomorrow it says to the president tell us when you'ryourbudget balances. it is important to do that because we have our principled solutions with the program. liz: used a dozen state when the budget would be balanced, is that it? >> we have had to end dollars deficit of the past four years in the past for budgets by this president have never come into balance ever in the 75
as the president talks up, how to reduce the deficit and avoid spending cuts. we're learning the budget deficit will top $845 billion this fiscal year even with massive tax hikes and assuming the spending cuts do kick in. congressman tom price pushing the president to balance the budget and says this new report is proof we can't do that by hiking taxes. what about that? we're still going to be deep into the red. >> good to be with you. the president has put forward for different budgets,...
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why this nobel prize winner says the deficit doesn't matter now and why the government needs to spend even more money. >>> he ran two of the nation's largest and most important companies and turned around general motors. i'll talk lessons learned, the state of american business and the future with ed whitacre. >>> and bling, if you've got the cash, they've got the jewels. the perfect valentine's day gift if you have deep pockets. jewels, anyone? "on the money" begins right now. >> this is america's number one financial news program, "on the money." now, maria bartiromo. >> here's what's making news as we head into a new week "on the money." it is the u.s. government versus standard & poor's. the most aggressive move yet by the justice department to hold accountable a financial company at the center of the financial melt down of 2008. the $5 billion civil suit charges s&p intended to defraud investors, aaa ratings they did not deserve. standard & poor's' attorney says not so farst fast. >> the ratings that were issued were believed by the people who issued them and that's what the gove
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i think for republicans they can't be the party of bob dole caring only about the deficit. they have to care about practical -- the reason you're so upset is you know it was a good speech. >> he went over to the aei, the number one war center, this is totally neocon. your thoughts. this is hopeless. i thought he'd admit the truth here today. >> it was a bit jarring to hear some of that coming from eric cantor who has been a warrior. >> hasn't he been the guy standing behind boehner's back waiting to trip him over because he's been too moderate? >> no question. he's been standing off center stage waiting for his opportunity to become speaker. i thought that there was a lot of practicality in the speech but i didn't think there were really big ideas. i think -- >> it was like sundries and notions in a drugstore. little items, like telling colleges they got to tell people what employment prospects there are for english majors. what's that about? cantor -- let's take a look. he took a approach that the university education should be more like a vocational school, a tech school,
i think for republicans they can't be the party of bob dole caring only about the deficit. they have to care about practical -- the reason you're so upset is you know it was a good speech. >> he went over to the aei, the number one war center, this is totally neocon. your thoughts. this is hopeless. i thought he'd admit the truth here today. >> it was a bit jarring to hear some of that coming from eric cantor who has been a warrior. >> hasn't he been the guy standing behind...
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so you're seeing a decline in the amount of deficit. the question is are the republicans really crying wolf when they continue to talk about blowing deficits when, in fact the measures that the president and congress have taken so far have actually caused the deficit to decrease. >> well, exactly. especially the last plan where we did have a balanced approach for once. but what speaker boehner has said is that the president got his revenue, and so there is not going to be a balanced approach any more. you know, when paul ryan put his budget forward last year it wouldn't have reached balance for 20 or 30 years. so as you're talking about a balanced budget in ten years the only way from their perspective to do that is absolute draconian cuts. when they're talking about reforms, you and i are very well aware that is just code word for taking medicare and turning it into a voucher. taking medicaid and turning it into a block grant which is another way of saying a significant cut to these programs that i believe are part of what makes us a g
so you're seeing a decline in the amount of deficit. the question is are the republicans really crying wolf when they continue to talk about blowing deficits when, in fact the measures that the president and congress have taken so far have actually caused the deficit to decrease. >> well, exactly. especially the last plan where we did have a balanced approach for once. but what speaker boehner has said is that the president got his revenue, and so there is not going to be a balanced...
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reform, deficit reduction. these across-the-board cuts is not going to get us there because it's going to strangle our economy, slow growth which will increase the deficit and -- the choices that people are making here are across-the-board cuts, which could be 10,000 teachers or asking oil companies to pay their fair share. that's what -- >> the victims of the sequester, it's so funny to hear democrats cry about the sequester. democrats control the executive branch, they control the senate and they're in a position to negotiate with republicans who have put out two packages of alternative cuts so -- >> take those -- >> well -- >> -- in the senate in response. that's not take it or leave it. that's like the process. they haven't been able to pass anything, the president hasn't proposed anything with three weeks away. we acted in may of last year. we acted again in december. >> senator reid is not saying he will pass a budget out of the senate this year. but i want to bring this back to jon karl because when you
reform, deficit reduction. these across-the-board cuts is not going to get us there because it's going to strangle our economy, slow growth which will increase the deficit and -- the choices that people are making here are across-the-board cuts, which could be 10,000 teachers or asking oil companies to pay their fair share. that's what -- >> the victims of the sequester, it's so funny to hear democrats cry about the sequester. democrats control the executive branch, they control the...
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the way the president moves the country forward and relates to people's fears is that he says budget deficits aren't nearly -- they're important but not nearly as important as getting the economy growing now. and that's what i want to do. chris: i'll get back to what you said, david. there is a great chance to get the american people's attention. if he makes an appeal, let's get beyond the zero sum, backettey-back bickering in washington and get some stuff done this year. can he put the republican right, i guess you have to call it the republican right, in a corner? >> if he continues this theme which i think led to his success on the fiscal cliff negotiations, which is to make the republicans the party of no at a time when americans want government to work. and i think that's the way he needs to set it up. i didn't think he did that well in his inaugural address but i think he has another chance here, and if he can make it seem as if, you know, resisting him on finding an alternative to sequestration is being the party of no, the party of the wreckers, i think he's got him in a corner. >> i
the way the president moves the country forward and relates to people's fears is that he says budget deficits aren't nearly -- they're important but not nearly as important as getting the economy growing now. and that's what i want to do. chris: i'll get back to what you said, david. there is a great chance to get the american people's attention. if he makes an appeal, let's get beyond the zero sum, backettey-back bickering in washington and get some stuff done this year. can he put the...
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after spending months focused on federal spending and deficit reduction, to day house majority leader eric cantor plans to urge his republican party to take its message in a new direction. in what's being described as a major policy speech one week before the president's state of the union address, kantor wcant to rollout a new agenda that puts emphasis on how the government can help american families in their daily lives. expected to touch on new and existing republican education initiatives, the need to simplify the tax code sh ways to curb rising health care costs and the hot issue of immigration reform. in a prespeech excerpt, he is quote the as saying, "government policy should aim to strike a balance between what is needed to aadvance the next generation, what we can afford, what is a federal responsibility, and what is necessary to ensure our children are safe, healthy, and able to reach their dreams." >>> this is going to be closely watched because it represents a rebranding of the party and the conservative philosophy away from what has been touched on over republicanism and
after spending months focused on federal spending and deficit reduction, to day house majority leader eric cantor plans to urge his republican party to take its message in a new direction. in what's being described as a major policy speech one week before the president's state of the union address, kantor wcant to rollout a new agenda that puts emphasis on how the government can help american families in their daily lives. expected to touch on new and existing republican education initiatives,...
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a blueprint would miss the deadline because the debate in washington over taxes, spending, and the deficit. it was supposed to be delivered to lawmakers yesterday. if you are worried about food safety the agriculture secretary tom vilsack says we need to cut back on a number of inspections on meatpacking plants unless congress can avoid the across-the-board spending cuts that take effect in march. he says the agriculture department is studying how to handlewhich could also impact nutritional programs and food safety research. we know we are in a housing recovery, but the d.c. market is on fire. i will have more on that in the next hour. live at bloomberg headquarters in new york, linda bell reporting for abc 7 news. back to you. >> thank you. we will see you shortly. 4:38 34 degrees at this hour. >> still ahead, a frantic scene in the heart of baltimore. a huge warehouse fire >> welcome back. 4:41 right now. beautiful. the washington monument. 34 degrees this morning. >> we are above the freezing mark. >> that's where we should be this time of year? >> we are working on it. we will been wa
a blueprint would miss the deadline because the debate in washington over taxes, spending, and the deficit. it was supposed to be delivered to lawmakers yesterday. if you are worried about food safety the agriculture secretary tom vilsack says we need to cut back on a number of inspections on meatpacking plants unless congress can avoid the across-the-board spending cuts that take effect in march. he says the agriculture department is studying how to handlewhich could also impact nutritional...
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we talk about needing a balanced approach to cut this deficit, but why exactly do we need a balanced approach? it's not as if the economy distributes its games in a balanced way. if over the last ten or 15 years wages had gone up equally and profits had gone to the top 1% in an equal way, then you can say we need to rein in the deficit. instead, it seems like all of the games go to the top 1% but when it's time for pain, that we're going to spread across. that we need to give to social security, medicare, medicaid and we can't touch taxes. >> ryan grim and shira, have a good weekend. good luck. >> thank you. >>> snow is starting to fall across the northeast and forecasters say before it's done, this will be one for the record books. stephanie abrams is live for us in new york city's times square. good morning. >> reporter: chris, good morning to you. in times square, we have seen it all. nemo has been a triple threat, rain, sleet, and snow. laguardia and central park have been reporting all snow throughout the morning hours and it's not only new york. it goes into connecticut. and ne
we talk about needing a balanced approach to cut this deficit, but why exactly do we need a balanced approach? it's not as if the economy distributes its games in a balanced way. if over the last ten or 15 years wages had gone up equally and profits had gone to the top 1% in an equal way, then you can say we need to rein in the deficit. instead, it seems like all of the games go to the top 1% but when it's time for pain, that we're going to spread across. that we need to give to social...
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and we had a debate whether we take a balanced approach to deficit reduction as you described. one that asks the wealthiest americans to pay a bit more while making sure we reduce spending and make responsible spending cuts without cutting the legs out from under the economy. and i'm sure mr. bernstein would agree that as the economist i heard when i was a member of the budget committee repeatedly say that you can't cut so much so fast because in a recovery that is already more fragile than we'd like to see, you want to make sure you don't slow or stall that recovery. that's what the republicans are risking. it's really -- you know, i wish and i know that americans across the country wish that there would just be a massive outbreak of responsibility in the republican conference so that we could bring them to the table, sit down, and work together to avoid massive spending cuts which they seem willing to allow to happen. >> a massive outbreak of responsibility. wouldn't that be a great occurrence? let me ask you, jared. you may agree, but senator mitch mcconnell clearly doesn't
and we had a debate whether we take a balanced approach to deficit reduction as you described. one that asks the wealthiest americans to pay a bit more while making sure we reduce spending and make responsible spending cuts without cutting the legs out from under the economy. and i'm sure mr. bernstein would agree that as the economist i heard when i was a member of the budget committee repeatedly say that you can't cut so much so fast because in a recovery that is already more fragile than...
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house is saying, yeah, we want tax reform, we want to look at these issues, but we want to do it in a deficit-neutral way so that we will lower tax rates and eliminate these loopholes. to my mind just this one piece of legislation, which i think is a sensible piece of legislation, support i believe by the vast majority of the people in this country, could bring in all by itself close to $600 billion in a ten-year period. the choice as americans that we face, do you cut programs that the middle class and working people desperately need or do you ask finally large corporations who have gotten away with murder for years to start paying their fair share? >> even if we weren't looking at cuts at the big three, this is still terribly wrong. there's still no fairness in this game whatsoever. and they have lobbyists have gamed this all the way to the floor of the senate. and there's no question that it needs to be changed. and if this election was about change and if it's about fairness for the middle class, i would expect every progressive group and every democrat and the president to get on board big-time
house is saying, yeah, we want tax reform, we want to look at these issues, but we want to do it in a deficit-neutral way so that we will lower tax rates and eliminate these loopholes. to my mind just this one piece of legislation, which i think is a sensible piece of legislation, support i believe by the vast majority of the people in this country, could bring in all by itself close to $600 billion in a ten-year period. the choice as americans that we face, do you cut programs that the middle...
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jer that's going to be our deficit this year. are you happy about that? we're under a trillion. whoo hoo, throw a party, right? >> and the sequester's supposed to cut that by a grand total of about 10%. but fema's a perfect example of what i'm talking about. does anybody not really believe that fema couldn't increase its efficiency by 5%? my goodness, that's nothing given the kind of waste, fraud and abuse that you've shown on this show. look, they could easily do that. gerri: well, that would be a starting point. that's not the whole way to go, that's for sure. there's more to be done. >> but let's go back to my original idea. why can't we get back to the old-fashioned idea of people getting relief from their local governments and state governments and churches and people in their area? i was in houston not long ago, and people were say, you know, we had a terrible storm in houston. very few people got federal relief, and the homes that were damaged and the stores that were damaged were very rapidly rebuilt with almost no federal money. when did we get this idea that everything
jer that's going to be our deficit this year. are you happy about that? we're under a trillion. whoo hoo, throw a party, right? >> and the sequester's supposed to cut that by a grand total of about 10%. but fema's a perfect example of what i'm talking about. does anybody not really believe that fema couldn't increase its efficiency by 5%? my goodness, that's nothing given the kind of waste, fraud and abuse that you've shown on this show. look, they could easily do that. gerri: well, that...
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they have $3 billion in tax increases against a $845 billion deficit. the point that you make is a good one. the president and he drove this thing in august of 2012. h20122011. he wanted the sequester. read woodward's book in page 226 or some where in this and the deep cuts in defense thinking at the time that would put enough pressure on republicans to get them to agree to higher tax. here we are he wants this thing delayed yet again but to be fair there has been a solution put forward. the house of representatives has not once but twice passed legislation that would replace the sequester and the deep defense cuts which do cause damage to our national security and our readiness with other cuts also in the budget. and that is something that has been rejected by the democrats here on capitol hill and by the president. >> greta: what i don't get is the gal to come out and ask for mother delay. i can't delay showing up for my job and neither canmy american. we can't keep asking for the delays and he says the economy is headed in the right direction. maybe
they have $3 billion in tax increases against a $845 billion deficit. the point that you make is a good one. the president and he drove this thing in august of 2012. h20122011. he wanted the sequester. read woodward's book in page 226 or some where in this and the deep cuts in defense thinking at the time that would put enough pressure on republicans to get them to agree to higher tax. here we are he wants this thing delayed yet again but to be fair there has been a solution put forward. the...
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they're talking about the economy and deficit reduction. but also in the context of how does immigration affect that? the president said he wants to do something about the 11 million people who are living and working in this country and have been doing so for years illegally. but republicans here, especially conservatives on the house side, want to make sure border protection comes first. janet napolitano is touring the border right now and says we can secure it but we can't completely shut it down because that would hinder trade and commerce. also today the house judiciary committee meeting. they take a look at what might be the best solution here. there's a group of democrats and republicans working behind the scenes to come up with a solution. no word yet on how much progress they've made. >> interesting. tracie potts, thank you. >>> nbc news has obtained a confidential justice department memo that contains the legal justification for drone strikes on american citizens. the document from the justice department says the government can ord
they're talking about the economy and deficit reduction. but also in the context of how does immigration affect that? the president said he wants to do something about the 11 million people who are living and working in this country and have been doing so for years illegally. but republicans here, especially conservatives on the house side, want to make sure border protection comes first. janet napolitano is touring the border right now and says we can secure it but we can't completely shut it...
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place as you know to try to be a bit of a force on congress to make a more sweeping plan of long-term deficit reduction when they couldn't do that, this automatic cut put in to place, in to law. now republicans saying that they expect it will happen and in part are okay with that. because it would automatically begin achieving some spending cuts that the two sides have not been able to come to terms with in another way. you heard the president saying there needs to be more time and the real wrinkle now is that republicans thought the tax issue of increasing rates and more revenue just resolved and from their point of view, they thought no more taxes. that issue's off the table but democrats and the president are talking about things like the famous corporate jet loophole and other things to bring in more money. republicans are saying, no. this is going to be one of those standoff moments. will there be a lot of tension between both sides to try to figure this out? >> absolutely. 2:30 eastern time, the professionive caucus to introduce legislation to eliminate the sequester and seeing a lot of
place as you know to try to be a bit of a force on congress to make a more sweeping plan of long-term deficit reduction when they couldn't do that, this automatic cut put in to place, in to law. now republicans saying that they expect it will happen and in part are okay with that. because it would automatically begin achieving some spending cuts that the two sides have not been able to come to terms with in another way. you heard the president saying there needs to be more time and the real...
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this deficit is a real problem. this is where i depart from paul. who am i to depart from paul? a nobel laureate. >> we'll ask him. >> this is about the best deal we'll get out of the right-winged crazy people in the house. >> because it's balanced and -- >> it doesn't really touch -- there's no better deal progressives are going to get out of this other than going over the cliff. >> i'm so worried about austerity and -- >> europeans did it wrong. we had throw years of recovery relative to europe. if we're ever going to take the hit this is a better time to take t if this were three years ago, i would be arguing right with you. i think we can take a chance. when are we going to get the chance to take these cuts in the pentagon or take a bite out of the deficit? i think it's worth it. >> now twittering dean quester. >> if he would stop blaming someone else other than himself and man up and take responsibility. >> kris hayes, i'm sure your guests will have much more explaining on kicking the can down the road. >> thank you. >>> ousted fox news contributor says he's on a mission fo
this deficit is a real problem. this is where i depart from paul. who am i to depart from paul? a nobel laureate. >> we'll ask him. >> this is about the best deal we'll get out of the right-winged crazy people in the house. >> because it's balanced and -- >> it doesn't really touch -- there's no better deal progressives are going to get out of this other than going over the cliff. >> i'm so worried about austerity and -- >> europeans did it wrong. we had...
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. >> reporter: a $15 billion plus budget deficit has done what neither rain nor sleet nor snow could do. >> the choice is either change some of the service or raise prices. and people don't want prices raised. we'll make the changes in service. >> hello. >> how are you today? >> i'm great, thanks. >> reporter: lorenzo hudson has been making the rounds in great neck, new york, for more than 20 years. he was featured in a postal service tv commercial that ran during the super bowl pregame show. >> we don't want to see the business go under because they couldn't get rid of saturday or because they didn't get rid of saturday. but at the same time i want a perfect world. i want us to be able to stay with saturday delivery. >> reporter: in recent years, the volume of first-class mail has plunged as more and more people pay bills online and communicate with e-mail. in response, post offices have been closed, the price of a stamp raised, but nothing has staunched the flow of red ink. ending saturday service could save about $2 billion a year. while it may make financial sense, few other coun
. >> reporter: a $15 billion plus budget deficit has done what neither rain nor sleet nor snow could do. >> the choice is either change some of the service or raise prices. and people don't want prices raised. we'll make the changes in service. >> hello. >> how are you today? >> i'm great, thanks. >> reporter: lorenzo hudson has been making the rounds in great neck, new york, for more than 20 years. he was featured in a postal service tv commercial that ran...
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with the information from the congressional budget office saying that they're predicting the budget deficit below $1 trillion for the first time in the president's tenure in office but the agency also goes on to project that the economy will grow 1.4%, just 1.4% if the 85 billion cut affect as scheduled march 1st. here we are with another deadline that's certainly will affect the average working person as we heard from the president. the unemployment would average an 8% if this happens according to the cbo. >> well, and this is the president's message, as well. there would be consequences to the economy if we just let the sequester happen. which some of the republicans have been threatening to do saying it would actually be a good thing and not scared of it. i view that as a bit of a bluff and brinksmanship going on. this is something as you were just saying is designed to be politically unpalatable to both sides and to maintain they're okay with letting it happen i don't think i fully believe that. but, you know, obama is on offense and he's trying to stay on offense on absolutely every is
with the information from the congressional budget office saying that they're predicting the budget deficit below $1 trillion for the first time in the president's tenure in office but the agency also goes on to project that the economy will grow 1.4%, just 1.4% if the 85 billion cut affect as scheduled march 1st. here we are with another deadline that's certainly will affect the average working person as we heard from the president. the unemployment would average an 8% if this happens...
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and tell him we love him. >> we had also seen reports that he may have asperger's or also attention deficit disorder, that he may have had a couple challenges like that. did you ever see anything like that? do you think -- how will that impact him here as he starts down this path of healing? >> well, i honestly believe that ethan will probably -- it's a shame that this had to happen but for any child that i believe will bounce back better than any child i know of, would be ethan. he meets no strangers and i just feel confident he's going to bounce back and we hope to have him in school as quickly as possible. >> so special that you say that. i want to ask you a little about his mother. you just heard me share the statement that she released to the media which was so eloquent and gracious. she also, according to a state senator, said this when the fbi, they were debating whether to go in and kill jimmy lee dykes earlier. she was the one, according to the state senator who said she put her hand on the officer's heart and said sir, don't hurt him, he's sick. smith told that today to abc news.
and tell him we love him. >> we had also seen reports that he may have asperger's or also attention deficit disorder, that he may have had a couple challenges like that. did you ever see anything like that? do you think -- how will that impact him here as he starts down this path of healing? >> well, i honestly believe that ethan will probably -- it's a shame that this had to happen but for any child that i believe will bounce back better than any child i know of, would be ethan. he...
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climate and energy and a republican party that wants to shift the focus to the deficit and debt. >> reporter: athena jones, cnn, washington. >> now we know the president will focus a lot on jobs and the economy in his speech on tuesday. we just found out that he is also going to chicago friday where he will also be talking about the economy and his anti-gun proposals. clark judge is a former speechwriter for reagan and bush. welcome. thanks for joining us today. you both have had the opportunity to put words in a president's mouth. what do you think that president obama should say tuesday to make say different from his past addresses? clark, let's start with you. >> well, he needs to reach out. i don't think he will, but he needs to reach out to the opposition party, to the republicans. he's got to get an agreement, if he wants to move things forward in the economy and on other issues. he has to have a broad coalition that spans the two parties. in his inaugural address, he defined a very idealogical agenda, and did it in idealogical terms. that wasn't the right way to get started. frankly,
climate and energy and a republican party that wants to shift the focus to the deficit and debt. >> reporter: athena jones, cnn, washington. >> now we know the president will focus a lot on jobs and the economy in his speech on tuesday. we just found out that he is also going to chicago friday where he will also be talking about the economy and his anti-gun proposals. clark judge is a former speechwriter for reagan and bush. welcome. thanks for joining us today. you both have had...
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the deficit's going down. this year alone, medicare, medicaid, social security and interest on the debt consumes every dollar that washington takes in. this is such a crisis, and it's growing. >> well, this whole idea that don't worry about the debt, you had a little tangle with the krugman a couple of weeks ago. this exposes how wrong the view is. don't worry about the debt because the debt has built to a large number what the congressional budget office is showing is that we're going to be paying a lot of money on that debt, and it's going to crowd out vital public services. and that's why we had to worry about the debt all along. and we didn't. now it's built up. now we're facing reality. i thought it was a little odd. the president said, well, we have to do something, but he didn't offer anything to do because the main part he played was two months ago, he said, let's make the tax cuts permanent, both sides, and now we see, well, you can't afford that. >> you talk about paul krugman -- >> that's what they
the deficit's going down. this year alone, medicare, medicaid, social security and interest on the debt consumes every dollar that washington takes in. this is such a crisis, and it's growing. >> well, this whole idea that don't worry about the debt, you had a little tangle with the krugman a couple of weeks ago. this exposes how wrong the view is. don't worry about the debt because the debt has built to a large number what the congressional budget office is showing is that we're going to...
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what about deficits? we have a jobs crisis in this country. not a deficit crisis. to me, the whole conversation has been pushed to the right further than it should be. >> and karen, on a last note, in anticipation of the president's speech, the white house released numbers on the people affected by the cuts. i believe around 600,000, between 600,000 and 800,000 suffering as a result of cuts to food stamps and other program that is people need to survive these days and at least some of the analysis out there, democrats feel that they can win this argument over these cuts and that it's likely we're going to hear from the president words like corporate jets, big oil in the state of the union positioning the every day working people against those against who says he not paying their fair share. >> i think there was an interesting speech this week earlier from eric cantor, the house majority leader. i think people want to hear about more than just the deficit numbers but really concrete measures that are going to be enacted to make their lives better and what people are
what about deficits? we have a jobs crisis in this country. not a deficit crisis. to me, the whole conversation has been pushed to the right further than it should be. >> and karen, on a last note, in anticipation of the president's speech, the white house released numbers on the people affected by the cuts. i believe around 600,000, between 600,000 and 800,000 suffering as a result of cuts to food stamps and other program that is people need to survive these days and at least some of the...